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for a friend .. friend of mine wants to buy this :

mediaworld.it/it/product/_hp-p

MY experience with HP and Pavilion in particular been :

- NEVER ANY MORE IN MY LIFE ANOTHER ONE
- crap build quality
- non-upgradeable
- poor performance
- cannot install Linux on it ( not sure why, tried the impossible )
- battery went soon shit

Overall my impression is that HP is NOT "a good brand" for laptops.

What do you think ?

@gilesgoat I've had acquaintances buy HP Pavilion laptops then come to me some time later with them asking if I can repair them (e.g. broken screen, hinges etc) and even a short time (e.g. 1 year) after purchase, buying replacement parts was impossible, making them effectively landfill.

The poor build quality didn't help - they weren't up to being carried around regularly like you'd expect from a laptop.

Giles Goat

@gmarkall I had only ONE laptop ( so far ) in all my life I really cherished .. Was a company supplied laptop and was an IBM Thinkpad 1400 ( I think ) . It wasn't fancy ( well it was around 2002 ) but "it was as solid as a tank" and done the job PERFECTLY. I had it going from Europe to USA to Brasil back and forth being carried in all conditions. After I gave it back it was still perfect only the screen ( CF lights ) was a bit dim. I really liked it, it never failed me !

@gilesgoat I really enjoyed my Thinkpad X220 - I loved it because it was the last of the "original Thinkpad keyboards" before they went to chiclets, and it was pretty durable and repairable... I still have it, but it's way too slow for anything I do these days. I am sure it was not as well built as the 1400 (I bet it was indestructible!) but I found it a nice compromise...