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@llamasoft_ox@toot.walesAnybody know what the actual fuck is going on here? This field is apparently mandatory and I have no idea what the fuck to put in there. (It's online check in for a hotel in Spain I will be stying in next week).
@llamasoft_ox Surname here means middle name, second surname means surname.
@sbszine that's weird because it does ask for first *names* in the other part.
@llamasoft_ox It is very odd. I would guess it's Spanish or some other culture where two surnames are typical.
@llamasoft_ox Ah, Spanish naming conventions, or how to leak your mother's maiden name if you fill it [EDIT: after misreading] their way and aren't doing proper infosec https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_naming_customs
Spanish people carry both their father's and their mother's surname (apellidos), "Francisco Lopez Martinez" and so on.
The form was just translated from it without taking into account in makes no sense elsewhere. I would just put a single dot in the field to pass the check, but you could also enjoy the thrill of putting your mother's surname there.
Either way, I guess the staff will immediately understand what's going on.
I wonder if that is related to second breakfast? You might try typing in bagel cream cheese or sausage biscuit, see if that works. Or cinnamon roll coffee.
@llamasoft_ox how do you guys find so many obscurely bad forms? 
@dev_ric for ages just living in Wales was sufficient. No house number? Fuck you! No street name? Fuck you!
@llamasoft_ox that's why we go with "address line 1" as a more ambiguous input, and don't apply any kind of format validation to it. Street level addressing is way less standardised than people think.
@llamasoft_ox put “ox” and be done with it I reckon
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Spanish:
The 2 first names then father's last name, then mother's maiden last name.
You probably can get around by entering you mother's last maiden name on it.
Some American software I have seen used to ask for "Mother's maiden name" because all the Iberian and descendants. 
Just for trivia Portuguese is the other way around. The first last name is the mother's maiden the last name and then the father's. I guess our cultures really want to make sure of our family origins. 