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‘If a billionaire disappears, does the world lose a scientist? No.
An artist? No.
A healer? No.
A teacher? No.
A farmer a horticulturist? No
The world loses nothing of value.
Because #billionaires produce nothing.
They consume.
They extract.
They pollute.
They destroy #nature
They build empires on suffering.
Their existence is not a triumph of the system.
It is proof of its failure.’ of Economic Growth (GDP)
There’s a vital alternative system it’s called a #WellbeingEconomy
@PrPl there a far better economic system that has all life future wellbeing at heart. https://weall.org/what-is-wellbeing-economy
@nspugh Hii 
I saw the website,
But couldn't exactly understand what change is it working on.
And will money and governments exist in this?
@PrPl yes, but all public money is put into public good, and long term social costs prevention, policies support circular materials use, design to repair, reuse, nature positive food production, community economics, community renewable energy, workers co operatives, tax justice and meaning participatory democracy.
A example is the #Wales Future Generations Act - but yes no one has as yet developed great public awareness of it, and by in.
@nspugh there are billionaire who got there through art! Sir Paul McCartney ,Bruce Springsteen, Dolly Parton, Barbra Streisand, Taylor Swift. theses are good people who do good things with their money.
@HappynSantaMarta @nspugh except for polluting the planet extensively, far more than individuals who aren't loaded.
It should be, it can be, possible to share art without endless private flights
@noodlemaz @nspugh So you're problem is with private aircraft and personal transportation? and not Billionaires just because they can afford it. Maybe ban personal private transportation?
@HappynSantaMarta @noodlemaz @nspugh Most billionaire's private jets are basically small airliners and are lucky to get ONE mile per gallon. Even a tractor trailer with a full load burns less fuel than that.
The automotive equivalent would be a private bus and chauffeur as one's personal car,but that bus (being a diesel) is probanly good for 10mpg not 1mpg.
There are private planes that burn much less fuel but they are flown by their owners and not by billionaires except as a hobby. Note that they usually cannot do their own work, unlike those who fly "experimental" classed homebuilt planes. Many of these even well beyond the ultralight class are very light and have tiny engines. VW Beetle engines have been popular and more recently some have used water-cooled 1 liter Geo Metro engimes or even motorcycle engines. None of these can possibly burn the kind of fuel Elon's miniairliner does and they normally fly nowhere near as far either.
In fact, such things as Gulfstreams and Learjets are sometimes used as airliners, on routes that don't get enough traffic to justify a jumbo jet. Than there's Air Force One, which at least used to be a full-on Boeing 747
@noodlemaz @nspugh I am first inline for 1780's French solutions. but I also believe in Queen Dolly and the good she does
@HappynSantaMarta @nspugh people can do good without amassing obscene wealth to levels no one is capable of earning.
People don't have to own and use private jets.
Billionaires should not exist
Doesn't mean I want anyone to kill Dolly 
just don't let people amass and keep that wealth.
If it comes to French rev type situations, she's back of the line and I'm sure would give away plenty so it wouldn't even be needed.
@noodlemaz @nspugh which sparkes the dilemma of Karma. the more good you do and the more you pay it foreward, the more you receive in return. Dolly spends $100's of millions a year in charities trying to give it away, which makes her loved more, which brings her more in return... Taylor is discovering this in the same manor. while I have NO PROBLEMS with "capping an income or even a progressive tax rate at 99% or even 100% over 1 billion. claiming there are no good billionaires is a false
@HappynSantaMarta It's true, not all billionaires are bad. After all there are some dead billionaires. @noodlemaz @nspugh
@HappynSantaMarta @nspugh yeah no. It's not good to be a billionaire. At all.
If a good person ends up hoarding that much money? That's not a good thing they have done.
Dolly does good things. Remaining a billionaire is not one of them.
I don't know why this is hard.
You CANNOT 'earn' billions. It can only come from exploitation.
Paying a fraction of your wealth back into the community is the least that is required. It's not charity. It's duty. And it's not enough.
@HappynSantaMarta @noodlemaz philanthropic, rich, gestures, good doing, in an inclusive wellbeing economy are eliminated with tax justice.
@HappynSantaMarta maybe, but you do have to look at a billionaires lifestyle impact in comparison to the most climate impacted, socially impacted countries https://policy-practice.oxfam.org/resources/takers-not-makers-621668/
People call the billionaires "job creators", but every Amazon or Walmart warehouse employee, driver, or cashier replaces a warehouse employee, driver, person who stocks shelves, or cashier from another company. Often they replace two or three of them.
When a McDonald's drives a diner out of business, or for that matter even if a diner drives a McDonald's out of business, no jobs were created either. As with Amazon and Walmart, the job just moved.
Job creation by itself shouldn't be a goal anyway, we should be creating a world where everyone lives a dignified life with all of their human rights respected and the minimum amount of labor required.
@nspugh with the sole exception of Taylor Swift.
@claudius @nspugh only if you ignore all of the C20th's musicians https://mastodon.social/@HappynSantaMarta/113928492179657152
@nspugh Imagine who would be missed the least on Gilligan's Island if they disappeared?
@nspugh In the US, they have finally realized that many people disappear with no trace. Just try to find "missing persons". They tend to scroll off. They are not billionaires, and that is why https://invisible.institute/
@nspugh
And what about trickle down economics?! Huh?!
@nspugh All I know is that everything Musk gets put in charge of burns.
@nspugh the thing is, you can’t kill a billionaire. They aren’t people, they are things in a very literal sense. If you kill someone with a billion dollars someone else inherited a billion dollars. You didn’t destroy a billionaire you transported one into a different body.
@passwordsarehard4 global tax justice
@passwordsarehard4 @nspugh Given that fact it'd a good thing guillotine blades are good for more than one use
@nspugh Billionaire's do not disappear in Russa, they fall out of windows.
@nspugh Same goes for lawyers, stock analysts, etc.
Nobody will miss them.
@nspugh But they provide jobs!
That are shitty, abusive and underpaid...
@nspugh if a billionaire goes missing in the woods, and no one admits seeing or hearing him, is there actually a crime?
@nspugh The word even win more (smaller) billionnaires !
@nspugh > The world loses nothing of value.
really? because that screenshot you posted looks like it was posted on another platform… a platform run by a billionaire
way to invalidate your own argument
@ikt yes I use Instagram as that’s where the Free Palestine movement is, still, I use Bluesky, I don’t use Threads, rarely FB, sometimes Mastodon. Work wise LinkedIn sometimes.
There’s alternative federated platforms to all. But I have to mange messaging where demographics are.
The fact remains, governments need to reign in Billionaires - for life.
@nspugh
This is very sadly true in 2025.
But traditionally/historically, billionaires have been great patrons of the arts.
From the Medicis to Andrew Carnegie.
It's a shame that present day billionaires do not understand 'noblesse oblige'...
@greeneralia a very elitist, privileged space, just like oligarchs propped up, over inflated London’s property market, art market, washing dirty money https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/mar/06/how-london-became-the-place-to-be-for-putins-oligarchs
@nspugh Want to redistribute wealth? You need two things:
- Luigi Mangione
- Estate Tax
(*) Note: it may take several iterations. It's like dynamite - if you're not getting the results you want, just use more.
@nspugh That's what they would tell us; and it's very telling isn't it?