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Neil BrownNew blogpost: "I'm experimenting with no longer converting Markdown-formatted toots to html, for more consistent rendering"I'd prefer nicely-formatted toots, and basic html formatting doesn't seem too much to ask in microblogging clients, but the inconsistencies between fedi clients are not ideal.I'm experiment, but I'll probably settle for toots formatted less nicely, but more consistently, for users.<a href="https://neilzone.co.uk/2025/06/im-experimenting-with-no-longer-converting-markdown-formatted-toots-to-html-for-more-consistent-rendering/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://neilzone.co.uk/2025/06/im-experimenting-with-no-longer-converting-markdown-formatted-toots-to-html-for-more-consistent-rendering/</a><a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/fedimeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedimeta</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/Markdown" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Markdown</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/html" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#html</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/web" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#web</a>

Neil BrownIf you are an admin of a UK fedi instance and want to chat some point, on a friendly basis, about trust and safety from a practical legal point of view (data protection, OSA, etc), then do feel free to drop me a line.I'm always happy to chat with fellow admins when my diary permits!<a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/fediforum" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediforum</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/fediforum2025" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediforum2025</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/fedimeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedimeta</a>

Jupiter RowlandIf you talk about non-Mastodon Fediverse server software, always mention that it's part of the Fediverse. There are people in the Fediverse who read your message, but who don't know the software that you're talking about, and who don't know that it's in the Fediverse. In addition, there are people on Mastodon who are still fully convinced that "Fediverse" refers to an alleged Mastodon network, that the Fediverse is only Mastodon. Also, always mention that the software you're talking about is connected to Mastodon. If you say it's in the Fediverse, that doesn't automatically imply for everyone that it's connected to Mastodon. Case in point: Early this year, there were lots of people who were on both Mastodon and Facebook, and who wanted to migrate away from Facebook. So they created Friendica accounts because they had read somewhere that Friendica is "the Facebook alternative in the Fediverse", and they wanted their friends to move to Friendica, too. Why didn't they invite their friends to Friendica and follow them from Mastodon instead? Did they want to move away from Mastodon as well and use something better instead? No. Did they want to try Friendica so that they could help their friends with it? No. No, they moved to Friendica because they thought they'd have to in order to be in touch with other Friendica users. After they had learned that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only Mastodon, that there's also Pixelfed and PeerTube and, well, Friendica, they thought that "Fediverse" refers to a bunch of decentralised networks which, however, are completely isolated from one another. They're all totally different things that run totally different software after all. Mastodon users can only follow Mastodon users, Friendica users can only follow Friendica users. Why should it be any different? Well, and then someone told them that, in fact, Mastodon and Friendica are connected. Like, you can follow a Friendica user from Mastodon. That was completely unimaginable to them until they tried following their own Friendica account with their own Mastodon account. And they succeeded. So much to their surprise that they stared at the successfully established connection between a Twitter clone and a Facebook alternative like a deer staring at the high beams of your car at night. To you, it's only natural that "Fediverse" means everything is connected. But to many Mastodon users, this concept is completely alien until you explicitly mention it to them. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a>

Jupiter RowlandI'm very certain that there are people on Mastodon who <ul><li>have joined in autumn of 2022 or even earlier</li><li>have only ever used the official Mastodon mobile app, but never a third-party app or even the Web interface</li><li>don't even know that Mastodon has a Web interface in the first place because it's just another phone app to them</li><li>follow a four-digit number of Fediverse actors, all of which are on Mastodon</li><li>are fully convinced that the Fediverse is only Mastodon, and Mastodon is an enclosed network that doesn't connect to anything else</li></ul> I'm just as convinced that there are people on Mastodon to whom largely the same applies with one difference: They do not only follow Mastodon users. But they think they do. That's because those on Pixelfed, Sharkey, Friendica etc. whom they follow happen to never get caught behaving in ways that Mastodon users may find odd, they never even get caught posting more than 500 characters at once, and they never point out that the Fediverse is, in fact, not only Mastodon. And seriously, if you've never heard of Pixelfed, you may believe that even pixelfed.social is another Mastodon server. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastodon.social/@reiver" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@reiver ⊼ (Charles) :batman:</a> <blockquote>I didn't know Hubzilla had been doing quote-posts for so long — very cool.</blockquote> It has indirectly inherited them from Friendica, and Friendica was born with quote-posts as early as 2010. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotedShares" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotedShares</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>

Jonathan Kamens 86 47Proposing a new acronym to reply with when someone posts a link to the fedi without explaining what's in it or why they're posting it: NDDR, "No Description so Didn't Read." <a href="https://federate.social/tags/meta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#meta</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/FediMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediMeta</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Fediquette" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediquette</a> <a href="https://federate.social/tags/Netiquette" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Netiquette</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸</a> At least you probably already knew that the Fediverse is more than just Mastodon. I mean, I see you follow not only Bluesky users via Bridgy Fed, but also a few Pixelfed accounts. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NotOnlyMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NotOnlyMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseIsNotMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseIsNotMastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=MastodonIsNotTheFediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">MastodonIsNotTheFediverse</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mstdn.chrisalemany.ca/@chris" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Alemany🇺🇦🇨🇦🇪🇸</a> The Mastodon devs are talking as if either the Fediverse is only Mastodon, or the Fediverse as a whole doesn't have quote-posts. Neither of this is true. The Fediverse has had quote-posts since July 2nd, 2010 when Mistpark (now known as <a href="https://friendi.ca" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a>) was launched. Mastodon toots have been quote-post-able since Mastodon itself was launched, for when Mastodon was launched, it immediately federated with at least two Fediverse server applications that have quote-posts, namely Friendica and <a href="https://hubzilla.org" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a>, a fork of a fork of Friendica by Friendica's own creator. Nowadays, at least Pleroma, Akkoma, all other Pleroma forks, Misskey, Calckey, Firefish, Iceshrimp-JS, Iceshrimp.NET, CherryPick, Sharkey, all other Misskey forks, Mitra, Friendica, Hubzilla, (streams) and Forte can quote-post Mastodon toots with no problem. And Mastodon won't be able to stop them. No, seriously, it won't. Not with a non-standard, proprietary, home-brew opt-in or opt-out switch that doesn't tie into anything that the other Fediverse server apps have. And whatever switch Mastodon is working on will not tie into anything that already exists. Let me put it this way: Hubzilla has the second-most advanced and fine-grained permissions system in the Fediverse. It goes well beyond most people's imagination. It works on three levels: <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_channel_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for the whole channel</a> (that's similar to a Mastodon account), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_contact_roles.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for individual contacts</a> (that's "followers" in Mastodon lingo, but Hubzilla doesn't distinguish between followers and followed), <a href="https://help.hubzilla.hu/en/usermanual/permissions_content.html" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">for individual content</a>. (streams) and Forte are the only ones with an even more advanced and fine-grained permissions system. But even they don't have a quote-post permission setting. And they have permission settings for just about everything. You want reply control in the Fediverse? Hubzilla has reply control, and (streams) and Forte have reply control on steroids. But what they don't have is a quote-posting permission because that's next to impossible to control across the Fediverse even with the most advanced permissions system. As @<a class="" href="https://fediversity.site/channel/mikedev" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mike Macgirvin ?️</a> (professional software developer for almost half a century, designer of two Fediverse protocols, creator of Friendica and Hubzilla, inventor of nomadic identity, creator and maintainer of (streams) and Forte) says: The only way to make your posts un-quote-post-able is by not posting in public and not allowing everyone in the Fediverse full access to your posts. Set your "Who can quote" however you want, I'll always be able to quote-post all your public posts with no problem and with no resistance. So what chance does Mastodon have then? Mastodon which doesn't even know what permissions are? Developed by Eugen Rochko who actually has a history of head-butting with Mike Macgirvin, and who would never take any step towards anything that Mike has ever developed? I'm commenting from Hubzilla right now, and I'm also on (streams). And I can tell you: If you make any of your posts "un-quote-post-able", this still won't make my Share buttons on Hubzilla and (streams) disappear. CC: @<a href="https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Stefan Bohacek</a> @<a href="https://sfba.social/@FinchHaven" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FinchHaven sfba</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Pleroma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Pleroma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Akkoma" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Akkoma</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Misskey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Misskey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forkeys" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forkeys</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Calckey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Calckey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Firefish" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Firefish</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iceshrimp</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Iceshrimp.NET" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Iceshrimp.NET</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CherryPick" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CherryPick</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Sharkey" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Sharkey</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mitra" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mitra</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Friendica" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Friendica</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweet" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweet</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTweets" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTweets</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToot" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToot</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteToots" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteToots</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteBoosts" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteBoosts</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuotePostDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuotePostDebate</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=QuoteTootDebate" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">QuoteTootDebate</a>

Neil BrownHere's what I was looking for: the Mastodon UX around quote toots.It looks like:<ul><li>it is opt-out rather than opt-in, with a default that everyone can quote your toots.</li><li>if you mention someone, they are always able to quote that toot (i.e. there is no option for "I am never quotable").</li></ul><a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/QuoteToots" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#QuoteToots</a> <a href="https://mastodon.neilzone.co.uk/tags/fedimeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedimeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://troet.cafe/@Irisfreundin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nervensäge 💐</a> I have found a few guides for alt-text and image descriptions, but they may contradict each other. <ul><li><a href="https://www.accessible-social.com/images-and-visuals/writing-image-descriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.accessible-social.com/images-and-visuals/writing-image-descriptions</a> (this one still mentions SEO, but it doesn't make HTML a requirement, and it's very informative when it comes to how to actually describe an image)</li><li><a href="https://www.cooperhewitt.org/cooper-hewitt-guidelines-for-image-description/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.cooperhewitt.org/cooper-hewitt-guidelines-for-image-description/</a> (this one is geared towards websites and blogs, too, but it goes into detail when it comes to the actual description, too)</li><li><a href="https://veroniiiica.com/media-accessibility/alt-text/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://veroniiiica.com/media-accessibility/alt-text/</a> (this has loads of individual pages about alt-text and image descriptions, and the author is visually impaired herself; she actually advocates two descriptions for each image, one in the alt-text, one in the text itself)</li><li><a href="https://www.sandstormdesign.com/blog/website-accessibility-101-5-best-practices-writing-alt-text-images" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.sandstormdesign.com/blog/website-accessibility-101-5-best-practices-writing-alt-text-images</a> (again, website-focused, but again, no HTML, and it includes details like telling you not to mention the race of people in your descriptions and not the gender either if it isn't 100% proven and what to mention instead; it also recommends two descriptions for complex images)</li><li><a href="https://www.uml.edu/brand-communications-creative-strategy/resources-guidelines/web-accessibility/image-accessibility.aspx" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.uml.edu/brand-communications-creative-strategy/resources-guidelines/web-accessibility/image-accessibility.aspx</a> (this one advocates alt-text that's no longer than 100 characters, and it contradicts the above in that alt-text must never repeat what's already in the text itself, but it underlines the rules about race and gender)</li><li><a href="https://www.tpgi.com/short-note-on-coding-alt-text/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.tpgi.com/short-note-on-coding-alt-text/</a> (this is a more technical one; it points out that and why alt-text must never include line breaks)</li></ul> The existing guides on how to write alt-text in social media aren't worth the effort. They don't tell you anything the guides above, at least not beyond walking you through the process of adding alt-text to images in certain social media, step by step. Most of them only cover American corporate social networks and social media (Facebook, Instagram, 𝕏, LinkedIn). A few add TikTok. Very few also add Mastodon, but even they only walk you through adding alt-text on Mastodon's standard Web interface. They do not deal with Mastodon's special alt-text culture. They assume that all social networks and social media have either the exact same alt-text culture as websites and blogs or none at all. And literally not a single guide covers anything in the Fediverse that is not Mastodon. Hence my wiki plans. For one, I want to explain alt-text and image descriptions in the Fediverse as a whole. I won't include step-by-step walkthroughs because I can't possibly know every Web UI and every phone app out there, but I will point out that alt-text doesn't work exactly the same everywhere in the Fediverse as on Mastodon. Besides, I want to take Mastodon's alt-text culture into consideration which is being forced upon the whole rest of the Fediverse. Finally, I want to write guides on certain aspects of describing images and writing alt-text and not only compile the information that's strewn about the Web in lots of individual guides, but also link to these guides as references and point out when they contradict each other. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a>

Esther Payne :bisexual_flag:"Tech is political. Of course it is. Making a sandwich is political.""Choosing not to play the game is also a move. You cannot escape politics.""Politics prevades all facets of our technical spaces." - Brett Sheffield <a href="https://librecast.net/fluconf-2025/#tech-is-political" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://librecast.net/fluconf-2025/#tech-is-political</a><a href="https://chaos.social/tags/fedimeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedimeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://troet.cafe/@Irisfreundin" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Nervensäge 💐</a> Just a pity that this one particular guide doesn't really work in the Fediverse. First of all, the concept of "too long alt-text" or "too detailed alt-text" doesn't exist in the Fediverse, at least not on Mastodon where accessibility standards were defined by overly eager laypeople. Next, there are no decorative images in Fediverse posts. Also, only few Fediverse server applications support adding HTML tags to posts. The vast majority of Fediverse users, especially everyone on Mastodon, have a dedicated text entry field for adding alt-texts to image file attachments. Finally, SEO does not matter in the Fediverse at all. The whole guide is about alt-text on static websites designed by paid professional Web developers. As opposed to social media users, two out of three of whom can only post plain text. All this is why I've started putting together a wiki specifically for alt-text and image descriptions in the Fediverse. CC: @<a href="https://discuss.online/u/DNS" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">DNS</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://social.linux.pizza/@midtsveen" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Erik L. Midtsveen 🏳️‍⚧️🇳🇴</a> If you really want some criticism: Alt-text really should not contain line breaks, nor should it contain the quotations marks on your keyboard. Neither are standard alt-text elements. And just because Mastodon renders them with no problems, doesn't mean everything does. Not even in the Fediverse. As for line breaks: Some screen readers will take each new line for a whole new alt-text and therefore a whole new image. And they will read multi-line alt-texts as alt-texts of multiple images, e.g. starting each line with, "Graphic." <a href="https://www.tpgi.com/short-note-on-coding-alt-text/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">This has been pointed out by Steve Faulkner in 2015.</a> As for quotation marks: For one, just like line breaks, they're actually completely useless for the actual target audience of alt-text, namely blind or visually-impaired people. Screen readers don't read out quotation marks. I mean, how should they? But if a frontend doesn't render quotation marks properly, screen readers will read out gobbledygook where there's a quotation mark because they will see gobbledygook in the place of that quotation mark, because the frontend renders quotation marks as gobbledygook. For example, there's Hubzilla which is what I'm posting from right now, so it's very much part of the Fediverse. Hubzilla renders quotation marks in alt-text as their HTML entities, namely <code>&⁠quot;</code>. A screen reader will read out every single quotation mark as, "And quot." And then there are two descendants of Hubzilla made by Hubzilla's own creator, (streams) and Forte. The same quotation marks that you have on whatever keyboard you use, they use as alt-text delimiters. When the first quotation mark comes, they think it's the end of the alt-text, and they stop parsing and rendering the alt-text. For them, your alt-text ends right after, "Panel 1:" #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Hubzilla" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Hubzilla</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Streams" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Streams</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=%28streams%29" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">(streams)</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Forte" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Forte</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastoart.social/@elaterite" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Tregilus</a> Only that "my best" has actually led to unimaginable extremes. They say an image is worth a thousand words. I've once <a href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/item/f8ac991d-b64b-4290-be69-28feb51ba2a7" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">described one image</a> in over 10,000 words. Over 60,000 characters. The post is so long that, I think, Misskey and its various forks have rejected it, as have Pleroma and Akkoma. It took me two full days, morning to evening, to describe that one image, in-world research included. And I actually had to limit myself. For once, I did not give in-depth descriptions of the images within that image, especially not beyond what's actually visible in these images. That's because I've discovered that if I were to do that, I'd have to describe dozens of images in one particular image (in my image) and potentially over a hundred images in these, even though they're so small that they're technically invisible. It would have taken me months to write all that. And it would have been futile anyway. My character limit is over 16 million, but Mastodon rejects posts over 100,000 characters, and in the few places that do accept posts with millions of characters, next to nobody cares about image descriptions. I haven't posted a new in-world image in over half a year. I've been working on-and-off on the descriptions for a series of rather simple avatar portraits since last autumn. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://mastoart.social/@elaterite" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Bob Tregilus</a> Of course, this means that the more obscure the content of your image is, the more in-depth you will have to go. At worst, there's nothing in your image of which non-sighted people know what it looks like unless you describe it. Simply mentioning that it's there is not sufficient. My own original images aren't even photographs, nor are they pieces of art that represent real life. They're renderings from 3-D virtual worlds, very obscure 3-D virtual worlds even. Nobody knows what anything in these world looks like unless they can see it in my images. At the same time, however, chances are that they become so curious about these virtual worlds that they also become curious about everything in the image, not just what matters within the context of the post. That is, sometimes the image itself as a whole is the context. Either way, this means I can't just focus on certain elements in the image in my descriptions. I have to describe everything. So I've gotten to a point at which even filling the alt-text character limit forced by Mastodon, Misskey and their respective forks (they cut longer alt-texts off at the 1,500-character mark) doesn't cut it. All my original images have two descriptions now. In addition to the one in the alt-text that's very limited, there is another one in the post that's more or less fully detailed, that contains transcripts of all text within the borders of the image, and that also comes with all explanations that I deem necessary. Since I don't have a character limit to worry about (the limit is defined by the database field rather than a hard-coded or configurable number), this description is likely to grow well over a hundred times longer than typical alt-text. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Long" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Long</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=LongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">LongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLong" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLong</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWLongPost" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWLongPost</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltText" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltText</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=AltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">AltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWAltTextMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWAltTextMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescription" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescription</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptions" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptions</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ImageDescriptionMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWImageDescriptionMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWImageDescriptionMeta</a>

PVs- DR. Artist Marcia XNew blog post Also available on my content page Thanks to <a href="https://hci.social/@s0hw" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@s0hw</a> for the invite <a href="https://subscribers.artistmarciax.com/governance-frictions/" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" translate="no" target="_blank">https://subscribers.artistmarciax.com/governance-frictions/</a><a href="https://scholar.social/tags/writer" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#writer</a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/blog" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#blog</a> <a href="https://scholar.social/tags/fedimeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fedimeta</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://j12t.social/@j12t" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Johannes Ernst</a> Paging @<a href="https://cosocial.ca/@evan" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Evan Prodromou</a> and the ActivityPub inventress, @<a href="https://social.coop/@cwebber" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Christine Lemmer-Webber</a>. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=ActivityPub" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">ActivityPub</a>

Geheimorganisation"Bundesinnenminister Dobrindt weist die Polizei an, Friendica-Feindlichkeit nach Deutschland-Feindlichkeit in die Polizeiliche Kriminalstatistik aufzunehmen."  <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/FediMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediMeta</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/FediverseMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#FediverseMeta</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/CWFediMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CWFediMeta</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/CWFediverseMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#CWFediverseMeta</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Fediverse</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Mastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Mastodon</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/NichtNurMastodon" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#NichtNurMastodon</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/Diskriminierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#Diskriminierung</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MastodonNormativit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastodonNormativität</a> <a href="https://chaos.social/tags/MastodonZentrizit%C3%A4t" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#MastodonZentrizität</a>

Jupiter Rowland@<a href="https://moppels.bar/@crossgolf_rebel" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">crossgolf_rebel - kostenlose Kwalitätsposts</a> @<a href="https://mastodon.social/@fedinautus" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">fedi (ツ)</a> Schätze, da treffen sich diejenigen, für die "Mastodon" und "Fediverse" immer noch gegenseitig 100% deckungsgleich und gleichbedeutend sind. #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=FediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">FediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=CWFediverseMeta" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CWFediverseMeta</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Fediverse" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fediverse</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=Mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Mastodon</a> #<a class="" href="https://hub.netzgemeinde.eu/search?tag=NichtNurMastodon" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">NichtNurMastodon</a>

Travis F WIs there a "firehose" of <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fediverse" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediverse</a> posts? would you just look at all the servers' live feeds? I'm considering attempting to train an algorithm to classify * personal status (ate a sandwich) * hashtag participation * branding and promotion * conversational * memetics (cats/rats/moss) * identity assertion * etc This is awkward because I feel a bit embarrassed that I don't already know how to do this. <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/fediMeta" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#fediMeta</a> <a href="https://fosstodon.org/tags/askFedi" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">#askFedi</a> (btw, would be a final academic project for a machine learning course)

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